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标题: 恩版腊:我不是傻X 我不会在废纸协议上签字 [打印本页]

作者: 南国游子 时间: 2015-6-5 13:42
标题: 恩版腊:我不是傻X 我不会在废纸协议上签字

   缅甸时报，正在克伦总部洛基拉召开的峰会热点不断，争议频发，大有变身为菜市场会议的趋势。总结下来与会人员分成了两派。

   一派不断呼吁早日签署全国停火协议，不要再浪费时间。另一派则提出了很多条件和置疑，对全国停火协议顾虑重重。

   拥护停火协议的以克伦民族联盟的光头主席穆图西颇为代表，包括民主克伦佛教军和克伦和平委员会，联合国和中国来的国际观察员也和光头主席一样，都持有比较类似的意见，他们都呼吁早日签署全国停火协议。还有没有来的南掸邦军主席约色也是无条件签停火协议的倡导者。当然，克伦民族联盟也不是所有人都拥护这个协议的，他们分成了两派，另一半以女强人西波拉盛和二、五旅指挥官觉宝海为代表，他们反对无条件的去签协议。

   对这个全国停火协议顾虑重重的以克钦独立组织的恩版腊为代表，还有新孟邦党的乃汉达，学生阵线也表达了自己疑虑。

   恩版腊说，我不是一个傻瓜，如果这个协议有问题，我绝对不会去签。

   与以上两种观点不同，番外属于第三观点，可能更接近于克钦独立组织副主席，和平谈判的大红人甘茂的态度，属于观察派。甘茂此前一直被外界认作是停火协议的倡导者，这次他虽然到会，但拒绝发表意见，他只说一切还为时过早。番外还是认为虽然有各种各样的声音，但停火协议还是能够被签署，这就象一出话剧，剧本早写好，情节跌宕，但结果是不会变的，看看国际观察员的表情，你可能就会懂的。

   另外，果敢德昂若开三家武装反复的要求退出民族武装联盟，其潜台词就是要为全国停火协议让路，一切都不是无条件，也许有令人意想不到的解决方式

   当然，如果停火协议真的搁了浅，那肯定是大家喜闻乐见的，求打脸。

Divisions surfaced yesterday at a summit of leaders of armed ethnic groups when a senior figure in the Kachin Independence Organisation (KIO) insisted that the nationwide ceasefire accord under discussion must include the three factions fighting government forces in the Kokang region.
Kachin Independence Organisation joint chair Lieutenant General N’Ban La speaks at an ethnic leaders’ conference in Law Khee Lar yesterday. (Naing Wynn Htoon/The Myanmar Times)Kachin Independence Organisation joint chair Lieutenant General N’Ban La speaks at an ethnic leaders’ conference in Law Khee Lar yesterday. (Naing Wynn Htoon/The Myanmar Times)
Speaking on the second day of talks in the Kayin State border town of Law Khee Lar, Lieutenant General N’Ban La, KIO joint chair, said the government should not treat the Kokang factions, which include ethnic Chinese rebels, as a “foreign invasion army”.
“I called on the leaders of ethnic armed groups to maintain a policy of unity which will not leave the Kokang and Ta’ang armed groups out of the nationwide ceasefire accord,” he told reporters.
“I am not a fool. If the accord is not worth signing then I won’t,” he said.
The inclusiveness of the “nationwide” accord had been expected to dominate the five-day summit, which began on June 2. The talks were called to discuss the draft agreement signed on March 31 between the government and the Nationwide Ceasefire Coordination Team (NCCT), representing 16 ethnic factions, after some 18 months of negotiations.
Ethnic negotiators said the signing was “in principle”, and the document would need final approval from their leaders.
On the opening day of the talks held on the Myanmar-Thailand border, Saw Mutu Say Poe, Karen National Union chair and host, urged participants to approve the draft agreement and move on to the next stage of political dialogue. Senior envoys from China and the United Nations also called for an early signing of the accord.
The government wants a ceasefire deal to exclude the three armed groups it has been fighting in Shan State’s Kokang border area since early February. But it has offered a two-step process whereby it would first sign with about a dozen other groups represented by the NCCT and then hold separate talks with the Kokang-based Myanmar National Democratic Alliance Army and its two allies, the Ta’ang National Liberation Army and the Arakan Army.
Although the KIO leader took a hard line against the government position, General Gun Maw, deputy commander of the KIO’s military wing, is seen by some observers as more supportive of the ceasefire process. He declined to comment to reporters yesterday, saying it was too early.
Naing Han Thar, chair of the New Mon State Party and leader of the NCCT, told The Myanmar Times that the government was using deceit to spread disunity.
“If we leave those three groups behind, then the government will press its attacks against them. Once they are destroyed we will be weaker because they are part of our community, our force. And then we will be the next target,” he said.
U Than Khae, chair of the All Burma Students’ Democratic Front, said the goal should be an all-inclusive ceasefire agreement and “solutions” for groups that are still fighting.
He called on the government to stop its military operations to build trust and allow the three factions fighting in Kokang to join the political dialogue.
Leaders of the three allied groups fighting in Kokang are not attending the summit but have sent liaison officers who reiterated their groups’ readiness to quit the NCCT. Naing Han Thar said that would only happen if they were shut out of the accord.
Delegates spent the first day of the summit discussing the NCA text, which runs to about 20 pages, but did not reach the end of the document. According to the agenda, participants yesterday were to complete discussion of the text and move on to a proposed “framework for political dialogue”.
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作者: （铁血果敢） 时间: 2015-6-6 21:54
既然认同属缅甸国家，还是先签署协议解决战争痛苦，后面有什么不同意见利益纷争在政治协商解决，逐步解决争议。

作者: 新语 时间: 2015-6-7 10:02

（铁血果敢）发表于 2015-6-6 09:54 PM
既然认同属缅甸国家，还是先签署协议解决战争痛苦，后面有什么不同意见利益纷争在政治协商解决，逐步解决争 ...

签了就没有资本在谈了，明明知道老缅不可信，为什么还要签呢？？？那张纸只是废纸，何必再一张废纸上留下自己民族的名字呢。

作者: 打败缅狗 时间: 2015-6-8 02:38
水火不容的民族之战能靠签协议吗？闲话！必须靠实力！

作者: （铁血果敢） 时间: 2015-6-8 09:03

新语发表于 2015-6-7 10:02 AM
签了就没有资本在谈了，明明知道老缅不可信，为什么还要签呢？？？那张纸只是废纸，何必再一张废纸上留下 ...

可以相互妥协，缅甸要求解散改编武装可以，我要求自治自己选自治区领导，每个民族都有数位议员代表本民族利益，所有少数民族议员联合能达到四分之一就能左右缅甸政治，也打破了军政府25%的代表数议会重新布局。就怕民地武领导人放不下现实利益，打的你死我活的战争就要求个自治也是没意思。人民的游行抗议比战争管用。

作者: 老王头 时间: 2015-6-8 10:11
缅甸有过不知多少的游行抗议，成功的有几次？
缅匪言而无信，不能相信,必须靠实力

作者: 南国游子 时间: 2015-6-8 11:28

（铁血果敢）发表于 2015-6-8 09:03 AM
可以相互妥协，缅甸要求解散改编武装可以，我要求自治自己选自治区领导，每个民族都有数位议员代表本民族 ...

只怕少数民族妥协了，缅政府不一定真正的妥协。武装改编了，还能高度自治？？？？老缅是一种不可信的东西，没了武装它就不会给你什么议员的名额，彬龙协议他可以撕毁，更何况一张“相互妥协”的纸。如果民地武装妥协，那少数民族可能变成第二“罗兴亚”。民众上街游行，只会伤了无辜，纵观缅甸发展，一年有多少次民众游行，而最后不是死就是伤，更何况少数民族是他们不在意的民族。他们会将游行的民众说成是民地武装，而后对游民杀戮，侮辱.........所以，战争不是他们想要的，是被逼出来的。

作者: 中华民国万岁 时间: 2015-6-8 21:17
汉族应该民族独立！不应和渣渣缅人混为一谈！

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